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HOWARD CHAYKIN: BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD


By Philip Schweier
Mar 13, 2006 - 13:51

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With the volume of comics material written by Howard Chaykin in the past couple of years, a return to illustrating seemed inevitable. Projects such as the forthcoming Hawkgirl series is only the latest in a number of projects from co-writing his own series ( American Century), mini-series ( City of Tomorrow) and the graphic novel Mighty Love. Such a varied body of work is admirable for a man who had been out of the industry for a decade.

It was 2000, and Chaykin had just come to a parting of the ways with his last television show, the syndicated Mutant X. "It was a great job, a good ride. I learned a great deal, I had a great time, and I finally started working myself into an early grave. After I left the show I dropped 35 pounds, I started sleeping, and my life just got easier." The time seemed right for a full-time return to comics.

"I hadn't drawn in ten years,” says the seasoned comics creator. “I'd done some individual pieces here and there, but I hadn't really done any work of volume, and I discovered to my surprise and delight that my chops were still in pretty good shape."

Born in Newark in the early 1950s, Chaykin wanted to be a cartoonist since discovering comics around the age of four. He managed the feat by apprenticing himself to an acknowledged master in the field, Gil Kane.

“Everything I know I learned sitting and watching television with Gil Kane,” he says. “I'm serious. I didn't do anything. I was his go-fer, and the fact of the matter is it was the best learning experience I ever had. Gil Kane taught me everything. He taught me how to be a professional.”

He also apprenticed himself to Neal Adams and Gray Morrow, but it was Wally Wood who offered him his first published work. "I pencilled Shattuck, a western strip for Wallace Wood to ink for the Overseas Weekly, a newspaper for sale to the military only."

Chaykin’s first job in mainstream comic books was in DC Comics' romance titles, a genre which soon died out. “The guys who edited them were failed book editors, and the guys who replaced them were comic book geeks. So they basically threw away the idea of girl readers, which really pissed me off, because I like girls.”

In the early1970s, super-hero comics were being done by men a generation older. “The Marvel Bullpen in those days was old guys,” he explains, “ And most of us were EC Comics fans or pretentious illustration fans, and came out of an entirely different world view. We all assumed – and this is not a joke – that we were the last generation of comics talent.”

Of his generation of comics creators, he feels few of his colleagues were suited for drawing costumed crime fighters. "Rich Buckler was the most super-hero-appropriate character in the bunch," he says. "(Bernie) Wrightson was doing the horror and mystery stuff, (Mike) Kaluta was doing the same. (Walt) Simonson came in shortly after I did, with a science fiction portfolio. So none of us were really prepped to do super-heroes.

“All of us had grown up on that material, but by the time we'd become professionals – and I'm speaking for myself, and fairly certain I speak for most of those guys – we were interested in a wider range of material. I did pulp fiction, and science fiction, sword & sorcery. I was just testing the waters on everything I could get."

In 1972, DC Comics launched Weird Worlds a a science fiction/fantasy comic showcasing other characters created by Edgar Rice Burroughs, the creator of Tarzan. These secondary properties failed to find an audience. Before the book was eventually cancelled, Editor Denny O'Neil offered Chaykin his first taste of creative carte-blanche. His concept, Iron Wolf, led to seminal versions of concepts that would eventually be found in much of Chaykin's work. He infused it with "themes of romantic honor tempered by ironic detachment, played out against a background of galactic empires and brightly painted starships" -- Howard Chaykin, from the Iron Wolf reprint, 1986.

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Weird Worlds came to an end with the tenth issue, and Iron Wolf with it. Chaykin then created The Scorpion, a pulp style adventurer for Atlas Comics in 1975. However, following the second issue, the concept was dramatically retooled into standard super-hero fare. This sudden alteration failed to save the title from being cancelled, and Atlas soon disappeared as well.

Putting Atlas behind him, Chaykin continued to toil in the trenches of the comics industry, doing fill-ins on such titles as DC's Weird War. At Marvel, he and Len Wein collaborated on Dominic Fortune, another pulp-style character. They also put their heads and talents together for Gideon Faust, a Victorian era sorceror published first in in the pages of Star Reach, an independent sci-fi anthology comic, and later in Heavy Metal.

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He also continued to develope his own ideas while experimenting with a variety of artistic styles. When his Cody Starbuck debuted, his drawing style was very reminiscent of Alex Toth. A grand space opera, Cody Starbuck mirrored many of the themes later seen in the 1977 blockbuster film Star Wars.

Chaykin was chosen to illustrate the Marvel Comics adaptation of the film. After a meeting with George Lucas in Burbank the year before the movie was released, Chaykin walked away with a box of 4000 stills and a portfolio of conceptual paintings by Ralph McQuarry. "The stills were incredibly dead an inert," he explains. “They looked like a high school science project. What freaked me out when I saw the film was it ended up looking like the McQuarry paintings, and that was the most profound effect, that they managed to do all the work in post. It's a tribute to what was done to that film after it was shot."

Of course nobody had any idea the phenomenon that Star Wars would become. "Had I known, I probably would've worked harder on it. I still haven't gotten over the resentment of the fact that it existed in the pre-royalty times so I got chump change for those books.”

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Chaykin’s wish for royalties was understandable, given his weak financial standing at the time. Publisher Byron Preiss provided an opportunity to illustrate science fiction books such as Alfred Bester's Stars My Destination and Samuel R. Delaney's Empire, taking a sabbatical from comics he hoped would prove more lucrative. “I hardly call it a sabbatical,” he points out. “It was debtor's prison.”

However, the effort wasn’t as rewarding as expected, and he continued moving from project to project, such as DC’s World of Krypton mini-series, and another Marvel movie adaptation, James Bond: For Your Eyes Only. “I had to support myself elsewhere until I had a big screaming match with one of the mainstays with one of the major companies."

Driven out of comics for two years, Chaykin made a living by doing covers for Western and romance paperbacks. However, the national economy dipped dramatically in the early 1980s, coinciding with a developing conservatism in paperbacks. Publishers turned to other talents such as Pino and Elaine Dewillow. "It was the year of the bodice-ripper. I was doing fairly graphic stuff, and more influenced by Bob Peak and David Grove, and those guys."

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In the early 1980s, Chaykin moved to Southern California, with the specific intention of getting into show business. Among his earliest efforts was the animated film Heavy Metal, for which he provided character designs.

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Around 1982, fledgling First Comics began looking for creator-owned projects to publish. He gave them American Flagg!, which he refers to as the apotheosis of all the things he'd been reading, studying and learning since his teenage years. “It was just an opportunity to vent all of my spleen and get paid for it. What a concept.

"I make no secret of the fact that I'm a left-leaning kind of guy,” he says. “Unfortunately unlike a lot of my fellow left-leaning freres, I also have really complex ideas about multi-culturalism, and I'm profoundly patriotic, because I don't feel the right has any right to hijack patriotism, although they've done a fabulous job of it.”

Former First Comics editor Mike Gold regards Chaykin to be one of the most prescient comics creators since Steve Canyon creator Milton Caniff. “Every Chaykin reader who followed our culture, our technology and our politics for the past two decades is constantly suffering from deja vu.”

American Flagg! was just the sort of huge success any start-up company hopes for, but the arduous task of writing and drawing a monthly comic book took it’s toll on Chaykin’s health. After two years, he turned the art chores over to others; a year later, he left altogether.

A more relaxed schedule in the mid ‘80s allowed him to generate an enviable variety of projects. He created two additional graphic novels for First Comics centering on the post-modern world of Times(Squared). Featuring Runyonesque characters based on his own family, the books are among Chaykin's personal favorites.

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He also rode a wave of popularity which took him to the doorstep of DC Comics. A four-issue mini-series featuring The Shadow resurrected the character in more contemporary times. "I find it's a really funny book. I had a great time. I was only annoyed at how much the second issue was incredibly censored; character names, attitudes, just stuff. Oooh! I was appalled. But I was in California so I couldn't go to the office and scream."

Chaykin’s version also imbued the hero with what today are considered unappealing character traits. "The Shadow is a man of the '30s, and in my version he's a man of the '30s running around in the '80s. Men of the '30s had certain attitudes."

Specifically, a certain amount of chauvenism, a trait which Chaykin defends as the nature of the beast. “We are a society that is constantly victimized by presentism. You've got a contemporary culture doing period material that imposes contemporary ideas on period ideas. So when I do period work, I try to convey period sensibility, and buyer be damned. And I'm frequently damned by the buyer because they want presentism, and they can find it elsewhere."

He then wrote and illustrated a Blackhawk mini-series for DC, followed by another, Twilight. Featuring the art of Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez, the latter instilled more realistic – and sometimes less pleasant – human qualities to DC's stable of science fiction heroes.

During this time, Chaykin returned to American Flagg! When the series concluded a year and a half later, he found new avenues for his work, most notably the controversial Black Kiss, an erotic thriller published by Vortex in 1988.

While major companies might have loved to have Chaykin on staff, he continued to eschew super-heroes. "You know, when you start giving a guy super-powers, my own innate goofiness comes in. I always felt the stuff that (Harvey) Kurtzman did, the Super-Duperman, the Plastic Sam, was closer to the way real people would behave. I believe that super-heroes should have feet of clay to bring them down to size and to make them more fun to be surprised by.

"One of my favorite comic books is that last Superman story that Alan Moore wrote. But I have no idea where to begin writing Superman because there's something, for me, so innately goofy about this guy. He's huge, he's all powerful. Y'know, what if God and Superman had a fight? Superman would probably trip Him, so I can't imagine writing Superman."

Despite his disinterest in the super-hero genre, Chaykin is fascinated by Batman. "Batman is an allegedly normal guy who, if you really look at the subtext of Batman, he's a guy who had a bad day when he was eight years old. Since then he's been justifying the idea of going out and beating the living shit out of criminals dressed up as a bondage guy, and I'm facinated by that. I think it's an amazing idea and I love taking a character and playing with him. It's why I've always done Elseworlds."

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Chaykin featured the Dark Knight in three Elseworld stories. In 1991, Mark Chiarello illustrated Batman: Houdini, which teamed a Victorian-era Batman with the master escape artist. In 1996 Chaykin wrote and drew Dark Allegiances, featuring Batman during World War II, followed by Thrillkillers in 1998, a tale suggestive of the film Natural Born Killers.

Another story, the three-issue Flyer published in Legends of the Dark Knight in 1991, is noteworthy as it was illustrated by Chaykin’s former mentor, Gil Kane.

Regarding Batman as a guy who is completely and totally his own self product, Chaykin, like an actor searching for character, chooses to look under the mask. "I've always been much more interested in Bruce Wayne than Batman. Bruce Wayne's a really interesting guy. I want to do a story about Bruce Wayne involved in an Enron-type scandal, and Bruce Wayne at Bohemian Grove. It's where all the rich republicans and celebrities go up in Northern California and run around naked. You know, ‘Eliminate rage,’ and they dance naked around a bonfire. I want to see Bruce Wayne doing that."

Stumbling into television, he managed to find the financial success for which he was searching. "It was whore money,” he says shamelessly. Cultivating a television career throughout most of the 1990s, he worked on such shows as The Flash, Viper, and Earth: Final Conflict. “I started out a rung above the bottom (staff writer) and finished a rung below the top (executive consultant).

During his tenure in television, Chaykin continued to do occassional comic book projects, such as Power & Glory for Malibu Comics’ Bravura imprint. The story of a costumed hero manufactured by the American government, he describes it as " Broadcast News with super-heroes."

In more recent years, Chaykin, with writing partner David Tischman, scripted a number graphic novels and mini-series for DC comics. An ongoing series from Vertigo, American Century, ran for two years.

His television days behind him, Chaykin has returned to comics with fresh interests and renewed sensibilities. "I'd always been an anal structurist in every sense of the word. I'm a great believer in order and geometry, and for some ungodly reason, and I have no idea where it came from, I developed a jazz musician's improvisation, a lack of fear about not knowing exactly where I was going with an idea, which is a very new idea for me. It's brand new.

“I try to reinvent myself every five years. My stuff looks pretty much the same, but there's also stuff added to it, because I find myself getting too rock bound and conservative, so I end up throwing stuff out and trying something new. I mean, I've had a lovely career, but the truth is, it's been different every time and it's what keeps you young and fresh.

“I'm really lucky to have the work that I've got to do. I'm having a great time, because a lot of guys my age are sort of stultified and atrophied in their abilities and in their attitudes toward the material. It's a seven-day week, and I put in a minimum of 65 hours a week, and I'm not making nearly the amount of money I used to make in television, but I'm a lot happier.”

Chaykin shows no sign of letting up. Leading up to his drawing duties on Hawkgirl, Chaykin has doen several covers for DC Comics, as well as a couple of limited series, one featuring a new take on the Challengers of the Unknown, the other his original story City of Tomorrow. He also wrote Legend, a 4-issue adaptation of Philip Wylie's novel Gladiator, with art by comics veteran Russ Heath.

He is also currently working on a prequel to Black Kiss is also in the works, as well as a personal project, Midnight of the Soul. Chaykin describes the book as a transliteration of the Greek myth of The Journey through a single 12-hour experience in a guy's life. “It's about a guy who is mortally wounded during the liberation of the death camps who's carried around a belief system that he's supported for five years through addiction to morphine and cheap wine. In this 12-hour period, where for the first time in five years he hasn't had a drink or a drug, he begins to learn that his memory is a screened memory, and it's all a lie, and things begin to evolve and change. By the end of the 12 hours his life is changed dramatically. It's violent, it's funny and it's very, very dark."

Both writing and drawing, he's danced around the idea of self-publishing the project. "It's come close to being published by various companies but it's something I really want to control. It's personally derived, there are metaphors from my own life in this job but in a world where super-hero comics are held in the regard they are, this is not an easy sell."

Despite such challenges in the comics world, Chaykin feels very lucky. “It's an absoulutely fantastic way to make a living. I work in sweats and a t-shirt and a four-day beard. I look like a homeless person, and I love my life, and I'm real proud and happy.

"One of the things about my life and my career I've always said is I am absolutely blessed."

(Portions of this story appeared in BACK ISSUE #10, May, 2005.)


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Chaykin
The man was been off track since he left better character like Cody Starbuck,Dominic Fortune and Iron Wolf .Maybe those characters were not the greatest comics ever,but they showed far promise than the post American Flag-so called adult approach-soft core porn,with weak storylines,disguised as science fiction or crime drama.
#1 - JOSEPH GILBERT THOMPSON - 06/07/2008 - 09:39
even if you don't like his newer stuff (i do) you can tell he's always into it. also, i like his new art style a lot, but it's always interesting to look at.
#2 - keith - 01/12/2009 - 01:44
Good Article!
Well done.

Re.: Joseph Gilbert Thompson's comment: John Byrne is right; every fan means something different when they say a pro's old stuff was better. My favourite period for Howard Chaykin's art is the 1980s, starting with /American Flagg!/ and peaking with /Blackhawk/.

I still enjoyed the post-1980s material (I loved his art in /Blade/)--it's just different than what I imprinted on.

Same with the early years. One time I found a Chaykin-drawn issue of /Micronauts/, and I incorrectly assumed it would be like /Transformers/ drawn /Blackhawk/-style.

These days all my favourite artists are changing their styles every few years. I think the last artist I liked who didn't change was Curt Swan. I first noticed him in the 1980s, and I can look at his work from the 1970s to the 1990s and it's consistent. You'd have to go back to the 1950s to find someone who didn't like Swan's "new style."

Steve Epting and Ron Frenz are two artists whose new styles I don't like. But for every person like me that wishes Epting was still drawing like he did in the 1990s and Frenz was still drawing like he did in the 1980s, there's a fan that likes the new style. The healthiest thing to do is just read the old comics.
#3 - Felicity - 02/25/2009 - 15:50
On Ironwolf Cody Starbuck and Monark Starstalker
The man was been off track since he left better character like Cody Starbuck,Dominic Fortune and Iron Wolf .Maybe those characters were not the greatest comics ever,but they showed far promise than the post American Flag-so called adult approach-soft core porn,with weak storylines,disguised as science fiction or crime drama.
I'm disgusted that Howard Chaykin could written and drawn some wonderful adventure comic,if he just took a different direction.Go to my blogs on it.You'll see better what I mean.My Maveric Universe Wiki site,too.I.m not some idiot,like John Byrne claims,in love the older stuff,because it'sa older-it fact,some of older stuff is rough-undesiplained-even plotted crappy,but it's way cut about all post American Flagg stuff,which crap.Byrnes only mad because alot of fans prefer his non X-Men/Fantastic Fur because,he's someone else whose lost it and producing alot of big brand professional crap.B-).I stopped by either John Byrne or Howard Chaykin because I discovered I wasn't it for quality of story or characterization,but the art.I liked the Artist,so I was Art Collecting,not reading it for the enjoyment of the work. Ironwolf Cody Starbuck and Monark Starstalker,were cool concepts given a chance might work,but I don't the porn driven,jackass hack Chaykin is now,would know what to do with either,given the green light.Someone else might,but not him.I have faith just the Shadow,I'd screw it up.Maybe in the both Howie Chaykin and John Byrne should listen to the fans-they might find that sense of wonder they must have lost to repressed by the crap master they have become.
#4 - Joseph Gilbert Thompson' - 09/22/2009 - 18:28

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