Steve Englehart part 3: Back to Marvel

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Steve Englehart part 3: Back to Marvel
By Philip Schweier
October 22, 2025 - 08:00

In 1983, as the independent market was taking off, Englehart brought his creator-owned property, Coyote, to Marvel, where Jim Shooter had been named editor-in-chief. “They put Shooter in charge because he could make the trains run on time. People had been missing a lot of deadlines and they needed someone who could crack the whip.”

Jim Shooter, c. 1982

However, like many who worked for Marvel at the time, Englehart was flummoxed by some of Shooter’s editorial mandates. “For example, you couldn’t use sound effects, because you don’t actually see letters floating in the air.” Shooter also believed that all comic panels should be framed from mid-distance – that there shouldn’t be close-ups or wide-open vistas. He expected every panel to show the characters in their environment.

“Also, you couldn’t use the word ‘super-villain,’” says Englehart, “because nobody actually says the word ‘super-villain.’” Despite being told not to argue with Shooter, Englehart suggested that within the Marvel Universe, people would distinguish between the guy who robs a liquor store and Doctor Doom, and there would be two different words to describe those people. “That made sense to Jim, and after that you could use the word ‘super-villain’ again.”

During this time, Englehart crossed company lines, writing such titles as Green Lantern and West Coast Avengers. In 1987, Englehart took over writing the Fantastic Four, returning the characters to their roots, when they were the first super-hero team, making it up as they went along. “Reed and Sue had been saying for 20 years they needed to take care of their kid, so I sent them off to do that. Let’s put Ben in charge with some new people, let’s see how that works.”

However, Englehart was eventually called into a meeting where the topic of discussion was merchandising. He was reminded of the challenges of selling products featuring the original team when the book featured only two of its founding members. He was instructed to figure out a means of bringing Reed and Sue back into the book. “I said, ‘Well that’s not what I’m doing,’ and that led to my departure from the book. Same with Silver Surfer. They wanted to go back to one-issue stories in which he flies away feeling sad. I said, ‘We’re SO sick of that, and getting him back into space has been great for him.’ But they wanted to make it simple so they could merchandise it. And then Marvel went bankrupt three years later.

“My two stints in the ‘70s and ‘80s ended when they did something I didn’t think was the right thing to do. But they were in charge, I was just the hired hand, but I had my opinions as to what I thought Marvel should be, and for a long time Marvel was what I thought it should be. I got to do what I wanted and it sold and everybody was happy. But the guys upstairs were making decisions at that point, so…”

In the 1990s, Englehart worked for Malibu Comics, which Marvel bought in 1994. In 2000, editor Tom Brevoort asked Englehart to incorporate Malibu’s characters into the Marvel Universe. Englehart explained that he would need a double-sized book, to tell the story and introduce the characters and their respective personalities. Brevoort responded that there was no artist capable of producing 34 pages a month, nor were fans interested in the work of an artist who could draw 34 pages a month.

Englehart, Rogers and Austin reunited for a limited Batman series in 2005.

“Since I retired, I write things that interest me, without worrying if I can sell it, does it have to be in on time. So I’ve done a bunch of things, and (DC Comics publisher) Jim Lee is talking about maybe publishing some of them. I take Jim at his word. I don’t believe he’s shining me on, but he doesn’t know if he can publish them.”

For instance, Englehart has a third Batman series in mind. “Jim would like to do that, and said DC was going to make that happen. So I started working on it, but then had to ask, ‘Why aren’t you working on it?’ and he said, ‘Well, we laid off 30% of our staff, things take longer.’”

Englehart also cites evolving business methodology in the comics industry, making it more bureaucratic than it was 40 years ago. “There’s a process where people do cost analysis benefits, so it’s a different business. I understand that. I think there’s a good chance you’ll see the third Batman at some point.”

Next week: DC vs. Marvel

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